Copyright Aid Forum Index
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in   Main siteC A Main Site 

Painting music score onto a sign

 
   Copyright Aid Forum Index -> Music Copyright

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Copyright Aid Forum Index -> Music Copyright
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Jadedmandarin
New Member
New  Member


Joined: 21 Feb 2016
Posts: 1
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:58 am    Post subject: Painting music score onto a sign Reply with quote

Hi there,

I'm new to this forum and joined to ask about copyright for musical score in the hope that someone can point me in the right direction.

The story is, that I recently made a gift for someone which consisted of a small wooden sign onto which I have hand painted some music score from a current pop song. It is only 8 bars of the vocal melody line and contains no lyrics and is simplified, making it purely an aesthetic piece rather than something that could accurately be performed with.

I am now thinking about making more and selling them but I can't find out if this would be an infringement of copyright or not. I have looked online and the only similar things I can find are people selling framed prints of pop songs and wooden signs with song lyrics painted on them. None of these sellers mention anything about licences or copyright issues but as their products feature mainstream music and lyrics from the last 50 years, surely all would be subject to copyright laws?

Can anyone help me get a clearer idea of whether or not I could sell my musical score signs?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
AndyJ
Oracle
Oracle


Joined: 29 Jan 2010
Posts: 1604

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jade,

Reproducing part of the score of a song has the potential to infringe if the song is still in copyright. There are no hard and fast rules about how much would amount to 'too much'. In theory it has to be a substantial part of the song before it counts as infringement, but as I guess you are reproducing a recognisable part of the tune, then that increases the chance it could be a substantial part. For some popular music, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that eight bars encompassed the entire song, just endlessly repeated. But perhaps I'm being too cynical. The issue has been made more complicated in recent times because of the large amount of sampling which goes on. This has meant that even fairly banal percussion parts have been found infringing when they are lifted from one song and used in a loop in another.

There is a new exception to copyright, for the purposes of quotation, which applies to musical works. I would thing that what you want to do fits under the heading of quotation, but it would only be legal if you credit the song-writer or composer. As I have said several times on these forums, we have no idea how the courts will treat this new quotation exception, so I really can't say if relying on it will definitely keep you out of trouble.

Since these items are purely decorative, does it actually have to be the correct notation? If you effectively created a different tune, or indeed a completely unmusical set of notes, would that actually matter to your potential buyers?
_________________
Advice or comment provided here is not and does not purport to be legal advice as defined by s.12 of Legal Services Act 2007
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Copyright Aid Forum Index -> Music Copyright All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1
 

You must be logged in to post  Log inLog in
Want to join in? New members are always welcome  RegisterRegister & join the discussion

 

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



This site uses cookies. By continuing to browse the site you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Find out more here

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group